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and -- it's about making sure you get your money. they can't make sure they get their money. scary time. >> absolutely. watch those heading into the closing bell. thank you for watching "power lunch." check out "fast money." >> thank you, brian. see you then. >> "closing bell" starts right now. hi, everybody. welcome to "the closing bell." i'm kelly evans at new york stock exchange. >> i'm mike santoli in for bill griffeth. bank of england cut interest rates for the first time in seven years and hovered around the flat line and down a little bit right now entering the final hour of trading. coming up, we'll look at what the rate cut means for the markets and the financials specifically. >> especially. hillary clinton opening up a double-digit lead in the polls over donald trump as a republican presidential candidate keeps stirring up controversy. coming up, barney frank and
larry kudlow discuss whether trump can close that gap. new jersey's pension fund manager is slashing in half because of high fees and market underperformance. hearing from the chairman coming up. >> a big story making the rounds here today. it will be another big wave of earnings after the close of priceline, activision, linkedin and kraft heinz. let's start with the bank of england interest rate cut move and among other moves and affecting businesses back here. we have a report on the tourism industry. steve? >> pay attention. this is really down in the weeds and really interesting. monetary policy stuff. in addition to the rate cut and more qe, the bank of england governor mark carney put a clever detail in to help banks, help the economy, and also, offer lesson to the federal reserve. few are talking about it but
carney exempted excess federal bank reserves and created by qe and when they create them, through qe, banks have to set aside capital for against them. even though they're totally safe and that reduces their profitability and ability to lend. it's a push me, pull you kind of thing to help the economy on the one hand with qe and hurt it through bank regulation and what he did, got rid of it. why does the matter? something that fred critics talked about for the u.s. they sit on safe central bank reserves to reserve against. if yellen follows carney, she could free up banks on the capital requirements and make room to help the economy. carney by the way spent 13 years with goldman sachs banker. could be fed folks out to there to listen to him. >> steve, could you say that again in 140 characters? >> no, sorry, kelly. can't be done. they may eliminate reserve
requirements on safe assets and it's a way that you can -- >> i -- okay. got it, got identity. holding on to the stuff that's safe, you don't have to put any money in the central bank. >> right, rye. >> freeing up the ability to maybe use it towards other purposes? >> don't have to reserve it against capital. that's what they have to do now. >> got it, got it. >> talked about in the u.s. and never movement. >> do you think there would be any movement just because the bank of england went this route? >> i think if they show that it makes quantitative easing more effective and leads to lending and better economic outcomes, i think the fed -- i don't know why they haven't done it but it's something certainly that some of the smarter people that follow monetary policy say should be considered here. >> all right. thank you very much. >> fascinating. >> now the fallout of brexit on the tourism industry. assumed this might mean we might be elbowing aside fewer british tourists in times square?
>> kind of depends on who you ask, guys. the u.s. government says tourists from the uk make up the largest group of overseas travelers to the u.s. spending $4.6 billion here last year. but with the sterling weakening, there's concerns that the u.s. is too expensive. the travel industry seems to be mixed on brexit. on the q2 analyst call trip adviser said brexit is partly responsible for softness in june and july. and last week, american airlines told analysts on the call that while they haven't seen any short term impact of brexit on the company's revenues, they do expect currency fluctuations to have a negative effect on the airlines saying down the road it's business travelers that they're watching most closely. meantime, the travel trends index gathering data of airlines, hotels and travel sites they say that international travel is muted in the u.s. and slightly down in the next six months.
guys, back to you. >> all right. thank you. probably does mean less travel. appreciate that. joining me are john wiener, john corepina and rick santelli out there. jonath jonathan, we had a lot of wait and see today. not a lot happening ahe of the jobs data tomorrow for a guidance. what is your read on this recent trend of sideways action? >> seems like we have been in the wait and see mode for a while. right? after through brexit, we had a market selloff and rebounded quite quickly and now stuck in the range here. s&p has been in the 15, 20-point range and looking forward for a catalyst in the market. was it the economicalen car? earnings season? unemployment number of tomorrow? seems right now that investors so complacent. the news, the headlines every single day doesn't really seem to spark investors to get back in the market. now, yes, like i said before,
coming off the brexit and i think investors are waiting to see the outcome of that and how that plays in the next few months and quarters and also it's august. traditionally slow in this period of time. so it seems like we're going to get through this month with not a lot of volatility. >> you're laser focused on helping people retire. how tough is that to do with super low interest rates and high equity prices? >> this is a pretty tough market to be the supermarket. clients come to us to build portfolios so it's like we can just put it in the s&p and let it go. we think now that with a 19, 20 pe between, you know, depending on who you're talking to, this is traditionally high. we don't see any reason for the markets to go a lot higher. without earnings going up. we had a good earnings season, pretty good just less negative. so we don't see a whole lot of upside and we are also not market timers. if you were for the past four or
five years you were murdered. so we're in it. you have to pick your asset allocation right and risk and be patient in this market. >> ron, you mentioned that equities look like they're fully priced at least but what asset class isn't? if you're building a portfolio of different asset classes, does it leave you anywhere to go where there's bargains? >> yeah. that's a good question. first off, we have income clients and luckily had the income producing stocks. they have done fantastic this year. what hasn't done well is googles, the tech sector or the bio tech sectors. that's the growth sides. look over five to ten years, that's the growth side more than the value side. but pick your market. pick your need and then allocate towards it. right now we like bio techs, the technology, but we like a basket. we don't want to make any big bets here. that would be risky. >> rick santelli, let's go back to what happened this morning
with bank of england. i thought the british economy holding in there okay, maybe a rough quarter or two here. they came out with a bazooka. >> well, they definitely came out with more of a shot than many anticipated. isn't so much about the rate but it's sort of is. you know, mark carney doesn't like negative rates. you know, their 10-year guilt down 16 basis points. boon yields down 6 basis points and further negative territory. i don't get it. i agree with your first statement and that was a bit couched. post-brexit world is way better on any front. why he didn't keep the powder dry is beyond me. i think the big story of the day is the boiling frog story and that's metlife. we have talked about this. whether it's metlife, all of the stories by smart people that deal with pensions insurance, trying to create a future for people to retire, pensions are
out of vogue. so people end up with annuities and not able to have enough horsepower to generate the return. this is all boiling frog. these are all big mile stoeston nobody's paying attention to. state of illinois, basically a junk rating. their pension funds about funded to the tune of 30%. this isn't -- we are pushing the sewage down the road into much worse territory but we don't notice it right now and these are the things to be talked about right now. >> yeah. >> i agree with rick. >> go ahead, ron. >> we've been -- what we have been doing for years and years is we have been lottering low investment grade bonds and lower on the lower scale, getting our 4%. not paying attention to the negative interest rates. it's somewhere a nightmare. the reason england reduced the rates is worried about a recession. no one's going past the short term but everybody's afraid of
what's going to happen with brexit and we have no idea. we'd rather be in the u.s. on the fixed side. we don't want to take the chance and think be patient with the equity side. >> jonathan, meanwhile, the price of oil fluctuated around the last couple of sessions. how much is that moving stock prices generally here? >> i think it has. a lack of anything else that investors basing anything of. we saw it top up towards the 50 level and then slightly below 40. nice level trading right here. i think investors happy to see it rebound off the recent lows a couple of points. >> all right. crude currently up 2.5%. markets still broadly lower. thank you. we'll leave it there for now. with about 50 minutes to go in the session today and again other than a dollar index moving higher, not terribly a lot of moves here and talking about some historic things, bank of england for 322 years, today -- >> as low as it's got.
>> new low. absolutely. up next, legal battles for control of viacom slowing down efforts to sell a part. we'll have the latest. also, new polls show hillary clinton widening her lead over donald trump as the republican camp shows signs of stress. supporter barney frank and adviser larry kudlow going to be here to have at it. you're watching cnbc. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com.
welcome back. let's take a look at square. that stock is popping on a narrower than expected revenue loss and mobile payments company saw 42% year over year processes. and the loans jumped 123% in the same period last year. >> remember we were asking would it hold on to the gains? looks like it has here today. check out other movers. first solar disapointing earnings guidance. also reporting a drop in quarterly profit. we told you about that yesterday. thanks to $86 million
restructuring charge. twenty-first century fox, affiliate fee revenue disappointed and so did the increase. down nearly 6%. >> disappointment on the scale of the buy back. that's one of the things working there. >> staying in media, the battle for control of viacom raging on slowing down stakes of paramount pictures. yulia boorstin has the latest developments. >> hey, mike. that's right. this morning, ceo philippe dow man said he's moving forward with paramount despite sumner redstone and his daughter's opposition to the plan. dauman said he narrowed down the process to a handful of prospects. >> the process has slowed down in recent weeks but we have reason to believe the favorable court developments last week will create a better environment to allow us to progress with
several parties toward a highly beneficial transaction to present to our board. >> now, dauman's talking about the fact that judges have allowed cases to proceed. they're now three trials scheduled for october in massachusetts, delaware and california. these debates of redstone's mental competence and whether the dismissal of dauman and other directors can proceed. redstone's national amusements today issued a press release criticizing dauman's leadership and dauman is sticking with the plan to try to strike a highly beneficial transaction for paramount. guys? >> you know, julia, i guess the question still hangs over whether, in fact, even absent this dispute with the redstone family, it is a great idea to try to sell a stake in paramount right here. does anyone think it's a great solution for viacom as a whole? >> well, i have just been talking to people about this in hollywood and it's very hard to certainly sell a stake in a
paramount while this is going on. who wants to be involved a legal battle? seems like the companies that would be most interested in buying a percent of viacom is overseas. we have heard of chinese companies and others expressed interest. it's less about the actual value of paramount. it was one of the weakest parents of the company in the earnings call and there's a lot of talk about how it was really hurt by the bad performance of the teenage mutant ninja turtles sequel. they have work to do on paramount said they on the call and there's questions about buying in right now. >> when's the impact of a report almost for dauman to step down in a month and the first indication to orchestrate something to leave and now that that's been widely reported, what happens? >> well, i think the fact that there are three lawsuits that are ongoing explain why that
would have to have settlement talks. maybe one to figure a judge but three it makes sense for them to try to have a conversation and negotiate between the two parties. i think they'll probably have more negotiations. but these are such complicated issues and so much drama here, so many relationships. who knows what will happen? >> well, we know you'll stay on top of it. yulia boorstin, thank you very much. meanwhile, just over 40 minutes left in the trading day, we have the dow modestly lower. down about 18 points. the other indexes hugging the flat line. nasdaq as has been the case for a wril, still the strongest. the chairman of new jersey's investment council which oversees the state's pension investments here to explain that move coming up. also, is the contest of hillary clinton and donald trump heats up, we'll have our own showdown right here at the stock exchange.
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of f sport performance vehicles. at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. welcome back. shares of metlife are down 9% today after its earnings miss last night. the life insurer with a 90% of quarterly profits. the prospects for the business resulted in noncash charge of about $2 billion lower interest rates playing a role in that.
metlife ceo looking to back out of the u.s. retail business. it sells individual variable annuities and selling a chill in the space. >> absolutely. this is not limited to metlife. meantime, republican congressman coffman is not happy with the party's presidential nominee and launching a campaign in colorado to stand up to trump. here's the ad that's reportedly set to start airing tomorrow. >> people can me, what do you think about trump? honestly, i don't care for him much. and i certainly don't trust hillary. i'm a marine. for me, country comes first. my duties always to you. so if donald trump is the president, i'll stand up to him. plain and simple. and if hillary wins, i'll hold her accountable every step of the way. i'm mike coffman and i approve this message. work hard and serve you, that's what i'll do. >> well it seems to be working
in terms of getting attention already. for more on the state of the party amid rumors of a trump intervention, we welcome senior contributor and unofficial adviser to trump larry kudlow and hillary advisory, barney frank. >> holding her accountable. what if trump wins? >> i'll stand up to him. >> oh. >> doesn't this, larry, in a way work? let me throw this out there. donald trump is out there as a total maverick. isn't it better if he's able to give the gop contenders a real obvious way to say to their constituents, we are not with him, we're doing our own thing and does that help the gop letting the local guys apply to the constituents and donald trump does the mavericky thing? >> happens all the time and yeah. i mean, except for paul ryan who's a friend of mine. i tweeted today i personally endorse paul ryan. i'm not sure he cares but i did. sure. look, these guys have to go
their own way to be re-elected. barney grang, frank, you went your own way? >> well, very decidely in at least one respect as you will remember but i always supported the presidential candidate of the party. i never had the problems that so many republicans have with donald trump. >> but i want -- does that establishment, plays differently with the democrats have a way to choose the standard bearer and -- >> this is unusual. this is not the norm for the republicans. it is true that, for instance, bill clinton was going to beat bob dole, the money went into the republican congressional race and this distancing of, repudiation of a candidate, i don't think you've seen this on the republican side in this measure, '64 was more. a little of this on the democratic side in '72. mike coffman represents as a republican a district with the largest hispanic population. this is a man who has won the
district. he may have a larger hispanic population outside of florida than any republican and what you see the fact that i think donald trump lost hispanic voters and why coffman -- john mccain is also scrambling for the first time in his career since he first won again because of the hispanic population. >> what can you tell us, larry? what's happening on the inside? are people really upset? >> this story is just wrong. okay? newt gingrich put this out some place and then starts naming names and reince priebus and rudy giuliani and rudy giuliani made it clear there was no intervention. >> should there be if the poll numbers have done what they have done? >> no. look. i can't predict the outcome. i think trump is much different candidates than the republicans have had. an outsider. okay? i think he is a tough guy. all right? but putting that aside, similar
stages, back in 1988 with papa bush and 1980 with ronald reagan, my year, trump is doing much better. they were down 20 plus and i know trump has lost ground and made bad mistakes in the last week or two. he's going to give an economics speech at the detroit economics club on monday and i can tell you just trust me on this, it will be a very solid pro-growth speech. if you're in the pro-growth camp and i think help trump re-steer the conversation. >> two problems. first of all, if trump says what larry is getting him to say he's going to undercut his message about working people because it's going to go counter to this notion about working people. it's going to have a tax incident that undercuts that. and second, bush and reagan, they were behind opponent and not with the degree of people saying i don't like him.
what's different about this is that opinion -- about both candidates are kind of locked in. mike dukakis was unknown and then bush told people some things about mike dukakis being a liberal, et cetera, they didn't know and didn't like. everybody knows just about everything about hillary clinton and donald trump. so, when the candidates are as well defined as they are, movement of that magnitude is less likely. >> one new variable is we have all of this money that donald trump raised just very recently. could that change things a little bit? >> not much. i have to say, some ways attractive it seems to me. this is a campaign of which the paid media has made less than the unpaid media and healthy for the society. i think unpaid media in both cases, democratic and republican were back to where it used to be and i welcome that. i think having paid media be as dominant as it's been is not unhealthy.
>> in disagreement with barney, trump's tax plan is really going to help middle class folks. i mean, it's got a substantial increase in the standard deduction. it also has a lower marginal tax rate for the middle and lower income people and also i think the gem of his art -- is cuts in business taxes. >> but, larry -- >> hang on. given large and -- let me just get this out. both large and small business tax rates are going to come down substantially and what the research shows is that middle income wage earners benefit the most of lower corporate taxes. >> anything in the campaign made you think that such a message of corporate taxes resonate with either side? >> it's counter talking about business taxes cut, a lot of things that many in the public believe that i disagreed with on all sides here but the notion that just goes count tore the thrust of the campaign. people, voting of the details, the thrust of trump to go after
the big guys and be better and cut back on these rich guys and a tax plan that headlines as you just did, larry, understandably, favoring business and business tax cuts is that at the very least takes a lot of explaining -- >> it's -- >> no. >> it is. >> yes. and it's also big business. by the way, small business is also voted overwhelmingly for republicans. if the republicans have got to be working hard to get small business, that's kind of tough. >> this is asking something that six weeks ahead of time and, barney, what happens? i mean, there's been charges, trying to bury them and play them in the nfl games. you know, same thing that happened in the democratic, you know, primary process. is this debate going to only hurt hillary clinton? given how well she's doing now at least in the polls. >> i don't know. it depends, frankly, this is going to be a test. donald trump's style served him well in the primary, i don't know how it will work vis-a-vis
hillary clinton. the notion of burying the debates obviously neither candidate had anything to do with that. and i have to say this. if there are people who would rather watch football than watch the debate, good luck to them. and probably maybe some of them they don't want to vote they shouldn't vote. >> i'll say this. trump is going to change the conversation. i hope. to the economy. and economic growth. which is an issue he should be able to capture because mrs. clinton doesn't have any economic growth policy. >> you're doing your best. >> i've worked very hard on this. >> what he has -- >> take this. >> what donald trump has is what a lot of republicans have had, larry's hopes. he's been telling me to come out for more immigration and they're going to be pro-trade. >> thank you. >> hope springs eternal. >> i'm an optimist. >> we appreciate it. >> fabulous. >> we'll see you very soon. time now far cnbc news update with sue herrera.
>> here's what's happening at this hour. president obama meeting with military and national security advisers at the pentagon to discuss what is and isn't working in the fight against the islamic state. it comes as the u.s. military rathering up the engagement in libya. president obama will hold a news conference in the next hour and watch it here live on cnbc. a judge has named a special prosecutor in the case against a chicago police officer charged with first-degree murder in the killing of black teenager mcdonald in 2014. e judge swore in the attorney joseph mcmahon this morning. rome increasing the security measures around tourist attractions, religious sites, ports and shopping areas in response to potential threats. ib creased number of police and soldiers of possible targets. and it's been called a creepy sight. that is creepy. a person dressed as a clown walking the streets at night in green bay, wisconsin. late at night.
photos of the clown going viral on social media. and while police have received calls, that say there's nothing inlegal of someone walking around dressed as a clown at night. better be careful. people are hunters. see a clown in the backyard and -- >> i'm glad my kids didn't see that. they have that fear of clowns. >> i do, too. >> a lot of people have a fear of clowns and his name is gags. nicknaming him gags. >> yeah. >> don't ask me why. my brother lives in green bay. i texted him. have you seen this guy? >> if he's still out there in january that would show he's crazy. >> exactly. >> yeah. >> thank you, sue. with just about 28 minutes left before the bell, we have modest losses on the dow. 12 points or so. s&p just about flat. leading traders tells us what he thinks getting in the close next. brace yourself for a storm after the bell. we'll analyze the results
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today. the company saw 7.7% drop in attendan attendance. mike? all right. about 25 minutes left in the trading day. let's talk to kenny polcari. ken, you know, a lot of times we say the market will wait and see before a big number like tomorrow's jobs number. >> that's exactly it. not a lot of volume. the market, prior to this morning futures fight and once the day started and the economic data came out, the focus once again returned to what's going on in the states and our economy and then what tomorrow's going to bring and so we have got the day that's been relatively quiet. the market's still stuck in the 2150, 2175 range and no reason to break up and out. there's no reason for buyers to get anxious and get address gre greszive. >> three weeks or so in that range. a lot of times the market into the neutral state before a catalyst. >> listen. tomorrow's job number is a catalyst if it's way off base.
right in line of 160, 180, i don't think there's a move at all. if it's a crazy number, people start to be suspicious because it doesn't make sense with all of the other weak data we're seeing and weaker and might make more sense and then that may cause the markets to have a move. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. heading into the close about 20 minutes or so left. dow's down 7 points. s&p barely higher right now. fluctuating all day. nasdaq's hanging on to a gain of about 9. new jersey latest government sponsored pension fund to cut back. that's next. also still ahead, the restaurant stek or the about as wanted as overcooked steak in the second quarter. and the rest of the year isn't looking appetizing either. when's behind the slump, coming up.
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of the total portfolio from more than 12% right now. the move comes amid a debate of labor unions advocating against the relatively hi fees to hedge fund managers and performance which according to the most recent figures available of hfr up 1.6% this year on average through june. versus an s&p that's up 2.6% through that period. new jersey isn't the only pension fund grappling with the issue. calpers, new york city and others made similar moves in the recent years. the fee structure long been a subject of debate and underperformance serves, of course, only to stoke those frustrations. new jersey has not said which specific names to cut from here beyond proposing to get rid of staenlgs and pair back credit oriented ones and targeting lower fees. 1 in 10 i believe is what they're looking for and happens to have good performers in the mix including elliott management
up 6.2% and third point up about 5.2%. that said, pers hing square is down 19% and new jersey reported $45 million from them in this past year. we'll see if they add to that redemption or out of it entirely in the year or so to come. >> thank you. appreciate it. joining us to talk more about the decision, tom burn, chairman of the new jersey state investment council, tom, thank you for crossing the river for us and tell us more about this. >> you bet. >> what's the rational behind the move? were the hedge funds not deliver what you were expecting? >> it's both. very short answer is a combination of bad performance and high fees means you're out and hedge fund guys are capitalists and understand that. so our hedge fund guys in the last year dramatically underperformed what we have done internally and so how do you
justify the kind of fees and manage it more internally. it's also more of a rethinking and so we did not want to throw the baby out with the bath water. and so we're not getting rid of all hedge funds and saying let's keep stuff that is undercore lated with the stock market because that is a useful diversification but let's get rid of stuff that is highly core lated with the stock market and people saying, hey, we are smart guys. pay us and we'll outperform and they're not. >> they have value then? >> yes. and i'm going to back up a step if i may and one of the things that we have done with the labor representatives on the council and everybody, a broad discussion about alternatives in general. and for a while there was hostility toward all alternatives and now i think there's a realization that private equity's done very, very well for us. ditto for real estate investments and some hedge funds good, others not so good and drilling down and getting rid of when's not working for us. >> what was the overall return
of the hedge funds you were invested in last year? >> last year, they lagged our internal by about 10%. >> wow. >> and so, they were down, you know, in the low double digits. >> i would imagine it takes more than one year. >> right. >> of evidence. so this is -- >> of course. >> a long running thing. >> it's been a long running thing. and we were mindful of the fact that in the last 25 years, hfri outperformed the s&p -- >> hedge fund index? >> yes. almost half the time. not the last six years and so has the world fundamentally changed or what? so that's part of our thinking, too. let's not get out of uncorrelated stuff at the wrong time and that's why i say other states have gotten rid of hedge funds entirely, we are trying to be nuanced. >> where is it going? going to passive indexes? more internally managed in other strategies? >> we are going to up what we put in equities, a little bit,
and domestic equities in particular. and i've argued since i've been on the council we were low there. >> what was it? >> 27% to 30%. i said -- >> equities all-time high you're not fazed? >> we are always nervous, long term. we can dollar cost our way average in and i pointed out at our last meeting we are expanding risk parameters. we are upping our expected return by a tiny bit and we are taking a little bit more risk to do this. and people are comfortable with that. and it's not all going into stocks. some goes into fixed income, into opportunistic credit and things like this. >> can't be necessarily an easy trade. trying to meet a target. you have globally rates offering you very little. >> that's right. a huge challenge and a thing i point out, new jersey is under funded because of a lack of contributions of the state
government an our consultants can't get us to an asset mix that is -- has reasonable volatility. reasons of 7.9%. >> that's the target? >> target. >> state statute? >> treasurer sets it per state statute and everyone knows it's probably too high and comes down gradu gradually. >> with the expected return up there, it doesn't tell the state to put more new money in there to top it off? >> well, right. we are struggling to put in what we can at this level. they, i shouldn't say we. and new jersey has had huge budget problems and that's a whole separate problem that we need to work on. >> seems like an easy thing to put off to tomorrow, unfortunately. >> that's what we have been doing for 20 years and terrible for the beneficiaries. got to change. >> tom byrne, appreciate that. we have 14 minutes left in the trading day. we have the s&p 500 just about flat. up about, geez, less than a
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welcome back. that applause for the pan mass challenge behind us. making the way to ring the closing bell today. art cashin mentioned 300 million to sell on the bell so keep that in mind watching the markets whipping around here. some fun and games leading up to earnings season today. let's get previews of julia boorstin and susan li. julia? >> well, kelly, activision's games are expected to drive massive gains. expected to grow revenue 92% to $1.45 billion and earnings per share projected to grow 225% to 42 cents per share. on the earnings call, we may hear questions about the plans to capitalize on demand for esports, competitive video game playing, especially coming to the company's new hit overwatch. back over to you. >> all right. and susan li, what are we
expecting today? >> priceline, expecting a beat on eps earnings per share and revenue. should be higher close to 13%. but it's a guidance forward that people are really paying particular attention to, especially in light of trip adviser yesterday with a big miss with earnings and we have seen some tightened competition of kayak and airbnb. what does the third quarter hold for priceline? that's something investors looking into expecting gross bookings. coming in lower than the second quarter. back to you. >> yeah. priceline reporting after the bell enunusual for them. looking forward to that. thank you. we'll see you guys in a little bit. joined by larry pakowski. where do you find opportunity in the markets? >> kelly, we are up 17% year to date and up that much because we're benefitting from the bargains we found last year. last year, we found lots of
bargains in areas out of favor and unpopular. >> energy, bio tech. >> energy and mining which the headlines screaming negative and we saw opportunities and to the benefit for us and fellow shareholders this year. >> larry, how about this year now? markets at all-time high. broader market. a lot less i guess really cheap goods out there, at least from the top down. what are you finding now? >> i think you are right. there are. looking forward, looks less like the index is benefit of performance and the tech bubble in 2000. we are finding select opportunities in financials. we own some sharyls which is part holding company, part merchant bank and jeffries run very well. so we think there at 85% of tangible book value you have a bargain and waiting for the all clear on the investment banking system the bargain is not there. >> that's a strong stomach kind of investment. any others from the sectors to mention? >> hewlett-packard, a big win
for us, having bought heavily and meg whitman came in to run the show before splitting if two, we owned hp enterprises and hb, inc. we think hp, inc. is cheaper and 8 sts times earnings, we think people expecting the printer pc business to rapidly decline are too pessimistic. again, we are looking for areas of opportunity where there is fear, disinterest and what we always do. >> fear and auto stocks, airlines, any of that stuff appealing? >> not yet. we are looking closely and good areas. >> cheap and gotten cheaper. >> we can't buy them long. >> right. >> i guess that's a good problem to have. thank you for joining us. down here. good to see you. coming up, you guys have got the closing countdown. >> right. >> after the bell, we have the earnings. also about 20 minutes away from a briefing and press conference with president obama at the pentagon. he's been meeting with the generals to discuss the next
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all right. final four minutes of trading today. we have a very steady market. major indexes not doing a lot. plus or minus all day. we did have a little bit of a bounce in crude oil and distance in the price of the recent lows below $40 a barrel but otherwise really not that much going on. bob pisani, waiting for the jobs
number tomorrow. >> it's good, good that oil's over $40. we really trying to break out of the range right now. last ten, 11 days, 250 points between the high and the low in the dow industrials. very strange, folks. normally a normal day, the dow 125 points from the high to the low. so we're a little over 1% move in the last 10, 11 days. very, very quiet. one thing to note and i think you mentioned this earlier, tech's doing very well. the tech index at a new high. not historic but go back to 2001 to get a better number. look at the tex index. highest level since 2001 right now. and we got old-school names of micron doing well today and the newer tech stuff is helped power and the numbers have been better for the newer tech companies and tending to move the whole thing forward. another point, we have been talking about the low interest rates. we have a good example of what low interest rates are doing to the insurance business today.
we had net, pru, lincoln report and what a mess this was and what's happening is low rates are making it impossible for these companies to meet their future obligations. and having serious problems. metlife took a $2 billion write down. that's a lot of money. $2 billion write down for products that are essentially guaranteed products, annuity products they're called and buy a stream of income from them. >> very long term. >> long term obligations and having trouble matching up the income, the insurance companies from the treasury bonds with their long-term obligations. $2 billion is what metlife had to write. and that's why it's down so much today. nobody expected that. >> people don't look at the insurers in terms of victims of ultra low interest rates. but ironically maybe metlife freed itself. >> yes. >> not to say that the write down is something that jeopardize the system. >> metlife is trying to separate
the retail arm from the major company and basically move it off, trying to get rid of it essentially. so that's how difficult the overall business is. the insurance companies can't possibly make any money. you want to imagine what it's like to be an insurance company in europe or japanese. try being axa, negative interest rates. here 1.6% on a 10-year. over there, you're a negative. >> that's a good point, actually. we have seen a slight lift in the 10-year yield. we have the jobs number tomorrow. who knows? all of a sudden it could jolt the treasury market. >> how could it be that prices for treasuries so high? foreign investors are coming in here and would you not think axa wants a u.s. treasury? even with currency risk, you want to own it. they don't have an alternative. >> why rates capped here for so long. appreciate that. we have first what ryan bank up
the nasdaq celebrating its ipo this morning. kelly, sec hour of "closing bell" starts with you. hi and welcome to "the closing bell," everybody. i'm kelly evans. finishing the day on thursday on wall street, the you with a slight drop of 2 points there. watch how it settles out and remains the case. s&p looks like positive territory but less than a point. 2164 is the level there. the nasdaq, the outperformer today hung on for a gain of 6.5 points. 5166 is the level. a lot of different cross currents. huge moves from the bank of england this morning, initially stocks rallying and largely faded into the close.
oil higher, too, by about 2.5% and waiting on the big jobs number tomorrow and also for more big earnings after the bell today. reporters are standing by for us. susan li on priceline. julia boorstin on activision and josh lipton for linkedin. mike santoli here. hello. manager stephanie link with us, as well. welcome. and cnbc fast money trader guy adami to talk about jack in the box yesterday, guy. >> i was watching you. i was like -- look at kelly giving me a shout out. awesome. so excited. like a little kid. >> they did pretty well there. so that's one place we can look to for strength in that space. meanwhile, mike, what do you make of the market? >> the market does this, often. a neutral state before a big news item of an economic report, like the jobs data tomorrow. 1.5 on the 10-year treasury
yield and the middle of the range and the s&p 500. a listening time. i don't necessarily mean that tomorrow's data to budge us out of it and what we got going on. big cap tech the story in terms of people finding stuff this seems to make sense even at all-time highs whether it really pans out or not, doesn't have that consumer cyclical risk and people are shunning right now. >> the last gasp of earnings today, stephanie. i guess retailers in a couple of weeks and moved through the season largely with an index at all-time highs. >> and running in place for three weeks and the interesting thing i think is that underneath the surface you have seen a little bit more of a risk on, little bit more of a cyclical bias to the market mike was mentioning. materials with a good run of it. health care and financials with a pause today. that's okay. they have been very good performers in a couple of weeks and i think it all depends tomorrow on the non-farm payroll
numbers and interest rate. it's going to be very interesting to' if this report gives it momentum to continue or if we pull back and see the lows again. >> were you freaked out in a larger sense of financials after metlife yesterday? seeing a company like that down as much as it was today. >> no. not really. i think everybody was more concerned about the big banks and about the regionals and the flat yield curve. everyone kind of forgot that there's a big book of business for these life insurance companies so if you've noticed, the property casualty insurance companies held in remarkably well. >> aig, look at the results. >> very good. traveler. i think pockets in insurance companies much more vulnerable and overlooked. >> that's why the life insurers traded at big discounts to book value already. not like the market was blind sided. >> interested to take a quick look at linkedin, looks like a big beat on the bottom line.
obviously with a lot of newer companies to look at the like for like there. but maybe some movement as we start to get those earnings come through. before that, guy, though, when's on your radar screen? >> i think the fact that oil may be stabilize for a day or so interesting as this was the selloff for the next leg higher or this bounce in a bigger selloff? i think that's the question everybody has to ask themselves. i still think oil has a leg to the downside and interesting. you mentioned bank of england. again, central bank's going wild and they should do a reality show. one of the interesting comments out of carney and paraphrasing and basically said a thing we've been talking about for a while. the acts of our central bank empowered and forced other central banks to act in kind. you know, now you're hearing people talk about this race to zero in currencies and again i don't know what it all means. i'm not an economist. but it just sounds on the margins like it's not a particularly good thing. >> well, let's see how
priceline's doing with this going on. the results are out and susan li has the numbers. >> we have a beat on earnings per share eps adjusted at 1393 apiece and looking for 12.69. revenues, though, did miss the street estimates, $2.5 billion. the street looking for $2.58 billion and bookings with the key metric and we have 17.9 billion and still looking for the third quarter guidance and eps guidance for q3 in line with expectations. back to you. >> all right. susan, thank you. those shares up about 1%. guy, what do you do them? >> priceline, you think a 13 to $150 stock, you think it's expensive but on valuation, it's actually not saying reasonable and not crazy and you have to ask yourself, are the zika concerns going to find their way into priceline over the next couple of quarters? so, i'd have to wait and see and
tell you something that's traded really well over the last couple of days and stephanie's probably looking at this. look at move in royal caribbean over a couple of days since they reported. traded down to 65. held. and it's bounced in a meaningful way. i'm not saying i'm getting on a cruise line any time soon and the stocks were trading as if nobody's getting on another cruise ever again. >> i think the same thing could be said for the airlines. they got sold off pretty hard and a nice literal rally today. i eat not sure that i want to go all in and overweight both of the sectors and the expectations have come down and getting in the numbers probably have to be tweaked downward and find places where their stocks are attractive and valuation, even after that cap is like delta at 8 times earnings, priceline at 17 times forward and growing at 20% and readjust and pockets to pli. >> more expensive to maintain the flight of planes maybe than the website but i get your
point. but, you know when's interesting is, you know, the airlines don't get great benefit in terms of stocks from low oil prices. right? we have seen this odd pattern or seems odd. your interview was very interesting. low fuel prices enable price cuts. >> exactly. and then investors get upset because the price cuts feed through. and that's the metric they're focused on. if their operating earnings improving and the number is down and aided and abetted, which is the right one to focus on? i mean, this is an active debate in the industry. >> interesting thing is over two months, the number comparisons of a two-year stack basis is easier. whether or not you think it's an investment or a trade, i think there's a trade definitely there at the very least. >> priceline group is moving up nearly 5% as investors continue to look through the results. let's go to seema mody, when's going on. >> here we go. up about 12% in today's session.
"wall street journal" reporting that rackspace is an advanced talks to a private equity firm, a deal could be announced as soon as this week. if you take a look at the q1 earnings reports, a mixed set of results and management highlights an acceleration of deals thanks to growing debate of aws, amazon's web services cloud support and microsoft's cloud support, as well. keep in mind rackspace has been in the cloud space for quite 1078 time providing the infrastructure for some of these other names like amazon and microsoft and we are looking at shares up 4.5% after hours, kelly. >> thank you. any thoughts on this one, rackspace? >> trading at about a third of the price it traded for three and a half years ago and clearly i guess they may be receptive to somebody coming in with a premium and the kind of sort of relatively steady cash flow business a private equity firm would be interested in. >> sure. a thick theme in technology is
cloud. >> true. >> clearly with google and amazon and microsoft and even other companies like service now and sales force.com. so makes sense that there would be some interest of private equity. these guys have had some execution problems and clearly not the other bidder of a public company and makes sense someone's interested in it and would like to see the details. >> i mean to mike's point, this stock is well off the all-time high. i don't think on valuation it's all that rich. plus, probably a 18% short interest and those folks not that happy with today's action and ensuing action to see and is this a -- to stephanie's point just now, is this sort of amazon ties and lifting all boats? and it appears as though what's what's going on and interesting i think even stephanie sort of warmed up to amazon and if you think about that for a minute that speaks volumes as the type of market we find ourselves in right now. >> i got slammed on twitter when i bought amazon at 690. i didn't get it clearly at the
bottom but i think that you can buy some secular winners in technology to augment my value style. >> very nice. >> you're up 70 bucks. how many stocks can you say that? >> i'll take it. >> rackspace up 7%. kraft heinz looks like it's trading up, a decent move and part of the sector trading at high valuations. linkedin, there's kraft heinz up 3%. not a lot of movement in linkedin, guy. i guess we'll look closely at the results and this one's usually what happened a couple of quarters ago? it fell like 50% the next day and unusual to see it not budge. >> you have the deal, i think the deal for linkedin trumps any earnings release. mike and stephanie can speak to that. >> looking to see if microsoft stock reacting to the beat and that's not happened yet and not moving just enough i think to register that. >> well, what different days it is here with microsoft now being
the one to own it. guy, thank you. just a parting thought before you go of jobs or anything else that's a key thing to watch here? >> i'm so fired up for this jobs number. two extremes over the last two months. so tomorrow do we split the difference tomorrow and have some benign nonevent or get some outlier? i don't know. but it's fascinating to see because the bond market is absolutely going to move on the back of this so i still think rates go lower. tomorrow's a long way to tell the tale on that. >> thank you for joining us. >> pleasure! >> guy adami. there's much more with him and the "fast money" crew next hour with head of u.s. equity strategy and see where she tells their clients to put their money to work right now and an area of the market that's cause of concern. coming up here, president obama is about to hold a press conference on the strategy for defeating isis. we'll bring you his comments as soon as that begins. second quarter was rough for
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results are out. josh lipton has more. josh? >> kelly, easy beats here for them. eps of $1.13 versus expectations of 78 cents. looks like revenue pops 31% to 933 million. that's verse estimates of 898 million. just looking through the release, kelly, talent solutions, what recruiters use to spot the job candidates on the site, that was 597 million in revenue. marketing solutions, 181 million. premium subscriptions, 155 million. those are all beating estimates. it looks like cumulative members, to 450 million. in a statement, jeff wiener saying joining forces of microsoft enables us to further accelerate and scale our ability to deliver value and create economic opportunity for everybody member of the global work force. there's no conference call here because of that pending merger with microsoft.
back to you. >> should have those shares pinned around 195. still, stephanie, just joking that now they go ahead and deliver some nice results for shareholders. >> now beat on earnings and margins looked okay. so just a little ironic but, hey look, microsoft is making a big bet on the company and not falling apart. that's for sure and we may know why they wanted to pay a higher bid. >> maybe management does have an incentive the look good for its one shareholder. they still want to be getting resources and basically saying, hey, we were a good buy. >> interesting. positioning going on there. we have an earnings report on activision. julia? >> beating on both the top and bottom line. adjusted earnings of 54 cents higher than 42 cents expected. revenues coming in at 1.61 billion. estimates of $1.46 billion. the numbers adjust for deferred revenues and exclude the
deferred revenues they still beat analysts' projections. the company said they reported record digital revenues and also raised the full-year earnings per share guidance. shares now trading up about 1%. kelly? >> thank you, julia. any thoughts on this here, guys? this is a space where it's just all about pokemon go and there was a story of gamestop acquiring a bunch of different stores and jockeying for position. >> a sleeper company. but to be honest with you. but this is the first quarter they had the king acquisition closed and clearly they had synergy there and the stock trading at like 21 times forward estimates glowing at 35%. >> reminds me of -- >> a monster. >> like the market. you never short a dull market. >> they have executed and executed. more drama with the come pet to recalls. electronic arts is hit or miss. activision is right there. stock quadrupled in four years.
low gas prices aren't enough to get diners to dine out these days. let's get to susan li. >> i call it a new reality in dining, kelly, where slower sales rates might be here for a while and you would think that against a backdrop of cheaper gas prices and promotions and also new menu items americans enticed to go out to eat. not the case. sales growth stalling in the month of march according to the group that tracks the receipts and across all the segments of fast casual which is growing at an average rate of 6% to 7% and then as you see sales slowing down more than the segment of 2015 and, yes, that's when you strip out chipotle and going through the individual issues right now. what's holding back diners? factors of living costs, rising faster than wages. high college debt paid for by students and parents and
millennials don't have cash to spend and individuals choosing to cook and eat at home and the ceo of mcdonald's pointed out. going forward, they say they sales only grow half a percent to 2022 below the growth rates we have seen after the financial crisis believe it or not. back to you. >> all right. thank you. we want to talk about the head winds of the restaurant group. robert, this is an interesting one to me, a little bit of a head scratcher. i see that others say there's a pivot to fine casual happening or fast casual 2.0. have the exciting new chains just been maturing and people looking for something fresh? what's going on here? >> you know, this industry is, you know, on a decelerating sales trend since the beginning of the calendar year. june was materially worse than may. sequentially it's tougher. i think consumers are, you know, we have heard companies talk about deal fatigue. the fact that consumers aren't as excited to go in for the 4
for $4. value offerings we have seen recently. other thing to keep in mind is that these restaurant companies with labor costs going up have had to take menu pricing and in doing so i think there may be the shift to the grocery store, especially at the low end of the totem pole. >> can the labor costs offset by lower commodity costs? >> yes. it can be. and in this past quarter, probably the peak quarter in which food costs deflation will have have benefited the restaurant operating line and then going forward and into next year, the probability is that those tail winds of low commodity costs less beneficial as labor rates continue to go higher and at a period of time where we're just not getting the kind of sales leverage for the industry of the past. >> robert, you say that there's a perhaps deal fatigue out there, basically people tired of these package value pricing,
pricing menus. but is there any answer to that for these chains, besides yet more value pricing? we heard commentary on conference calls maybe the most promotional environment of 2008, 2009 out there. when's the way out of this? >> the problem is when you have two of the larger brands and chains in the industry struggle as they are, mcdonald's as well as chipotle, there's a lot of deals and discounts coming from the big guys and the little guys have to respond. and so, in this environment, it's going to remain, the big winner's consumers, not so much a restaurant company. >> if you had to, robert, make quick recommendations, who would it be in this space? >> my two favorite picks in this point of time, jack in the box and panera bread. i think the key take away from that is that gives a high level of confidence that the things that management said they're going to do makes a difference in the year ahead. secondarily on panera bread, the
technology initiatives are really resonating with consumers and the food they serve. that again i think is really going to deliver the mail for them. >> technology might be the next driver here of these trends. thank you for now. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. we have an earnings alert. speaking of food on kraft heinz. seema mody, when's happening? >> 85 cents adjusted. revenue in line with expectations. the company also raising its quarterly dividend to 60 cents from 57.5 cents. keep in mind, the company struggling the keep up with this accelerated shift in consumer eating habits. stock up 4% after hours. >> that's not a bad move for kraft heinz. big company. thank you, seema. president obama is holding a national security council meeting just held it at the pentagon. 0 on the campaign against the islamic state, vowed to take questions from the press. we'll bring it to you live as soon as it happens. stay with us. ervices,
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welcome back. it's time for a cnbc newses update. let's get to sue herrera. >> here's what's happening at this hour. florida governor scott identifying the american world killed in london in a knife attack as darlene horton, the wife of a psychology professor at florida state university. five others injured in that attack. police sady dylann roof was
assaulted this morning in prison. he was punched several times. roof suffered minor injuries. protesters attending donald trump's rally in portland, maine, held up pocket constitutions. trump is hoping to win at least one or more electoral votes in maine. one of only two state that is divides up the votes. people from across the country are streaming in to indianapolis for the world's largest gaming convention. organizers say gen con is longest running and best attended gaming convention in the world with 5,000 events and exhibits. it runs through the weekend. there's still time to get there. that's the news update this hour. back down to you. >> i was going to say there's a con for everything and then comes in another way. >> that's a different -- yes. there's a convention for everything. >> yes. there is. and a convention center for everything. >> yes. >> and i grew up going to them in the insurance industry and that's another story. >> oh my gosh. >> thank you. yeah. the little squeezable snoopy of
metlife and everything. >> we might need a cocktail for that. >> exactly. hello to dad watching probably chuckling about this. sue herrera. a quick check on after hour earnings, waiting for president obama to begin speaking and zynga down 8% after the earnings report. fireeye down 15% on the earnings. apparently a miss and includes layoffs. and zillow group down about 6%. so we have had a lot of beats this quarter, generally speaking. here are a couple of places where people are struggling. >> zynga with an upgrade this week. didn't manifest itself there and i think people trying to figure out a way around some kind of -- the pokemon go-type games, but obviously not good enough this quarter. >> what about fireeye, too? >> yeah. software security space is totally out of favor. they were all hit hard at the beginning of the year.
some have made the way back. fireeye got as high as 16 most recently and pulling back. i think clearly are winners and losers in this software security space. the one name or two is proof point. a good quarter. and palo alto. >> and fireeye, the interesting thing, again, on this real quick is that, you know, publicly generally speaking you think it's a place to be right now. we have the internet of things, we have hacks in the news every single day. a valuation issue. an execution one? >> i think some of the leaders are taking share. last year, you could buy a broad basket of this space and you could do pretty well. this year, you have to actually find the winners and the ones dominating and taking share including cisco, palo alto. >> we have more on this, seema? >> watching the stock move in extended trade. fireeye down more than 14%. the company plans layoffs as its new ceo takes the helm.
looking at earnings adjusted loss of 33 cents versus estimate of 39 cents. revenue missing expectations. $175 million. again, that's below the street consensus of very weak q3 guidance for full year. and full year revenue and earnings forecast. that stock down more than 14% in after hours. we'll be sure to get on the conference call and you get you more details. >> mike? >> it's my impression with some of the smaller software security names the fix is not universal. right? the right products and the stuff that the companies have priorities about right now in terms of the threats and not sure that if you -- full array of those products. >> you want companies now want a full solution from these companies and not all those small players have the full solutions. they have targeted products that -- we're fine when the i.t. offices buying little pieces of what they needed and now a
company to manage the situation, because it's so complex. >> yeah. >> that's why you have to stick with the bigger players or find a company that's a niche and really truly differentiated. >> the viruses they build up resistances to the medicine. >> yeah, no. i can't get my head around the threats in the space. let's get to john harwood with different threats. the president is about to address. he is at the pentagon going to update us on the fight against the islamic state? >> he is. he's met with the national security team and going to come out and take questions and expect he gets questions about the $400 million delivery of cash to the iranians in -- at the same time that american hostages inl colluding "the washington post" reporter jason rezaian were released some months ago. this is an issue on the campaign trail. donald trump's going hard after hillary clinton and president obama for that. and we can expect, of course, other questions related to the presidential campaign in
addition to those about the fight against isis. >> and about the strategy, in particular, is that what this discussion is about? do you expect him to be asked about either, you know, doing more especially in light of some of the horrible terrorist attacks? whether there are people acting on their own or whether it's about continuing to sort of strike the homeland of isis, if you will? >> i would expect him to talk about all phases of the fight. the administration's position has been they have made some progress in rolling back territorial gains by isis in the region and that the terrorist strikes in various places in europe, and elsewhere, have been sort of the lashing out of an organization that knows that the state part of the islamic state is losing ground. but that's not an adequate answer for the american people who are very concerned given the incident that have happened both in our country and overseas so i expect him to discuss that in
all phases. >> already affected sales for hotels across europe, flights. seen people address it, too. unfortunately what the repetition of it, not the fact of one or two vicious attacks, it's now the fact that people start to think do i want to change my plans? >> absolutely, no. finally able to measure this, too. a lot of european economies suffering. i think the eurozone about 10% get it is gdp from tourism and this summer you're seeing measurable declines. >> i mean, just the uncertainty in general. so many things going on in europe and with the u.k. and brexit and that sort of thing. and currency and it's already been a slow grower to begin with and this on top of it. zika. the whole thing. really just very challenging environment over there right now and that's why you're seeing all this monetary policy and some fiscal policy changes. >> yeah. trying to support things. we'll take a break and come back and update you with the president there to update us on
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nasdaq was up 6. oil was higher. big news this morning, of course, bank of england's huge moves on the monetary side. that's whip sawing markets today. we have the jobs report tomorrow morning and an earnings report on weight watchers. seema? >> once again, a big mover here. weight watchers down about 8%. earnings 46 cents. revenue missing expectations, 310 million versus consensus of $318 million. interestingly enough, taking a lock at the price action in shares of weight watchers, down right now in extended trade on the disappointing earnings report and year to date, down about 50%. keep in mind this is a company that oprah got involved in back in october of 2015. who knows? we'll see if oprah's leadership or her involvement is actually helping but, again, looking at the stock down 9% here, kelly. >> affects the investment in the company, too. thank you. i'll notice higher in keeping with the theme of jack in the
box yesterday. you know, jack owns qdoba. there's bright spots in the food space and intriguing. weight watchers is other side of this. >> yeah. zero sum game. that's the way fast food is looking. weight watchers, you know, see that mentioned oprah winfrey's investment. stock below 7 when that happened and coming quarter, you're pretty much one full year of her involvement and you see if it has any fundamental impact. >> the problems of chipotle driving people elsewhere and why you have jack in the box and i don't know the details on that one, though. panera. so i think that there is some things happening on the traffic front that may give back. we'll have to see. chipotle may have problems for years. in terms of weight watchers, stock up 6% today and down 9, okay, that's not great but giving what it had at least
earlier today. >> restaurant brands, the parent of burger king, also a good perform eer year to date, as we. quietly outside of the core you have some winners. >> crazy. tesla's elon musk using the call yesterday to reassure analysts that despite when you look at product lines and trends of the past, the company is doing just fine. >> all of that's kind of lumped together, can be confusing and then tesla's a money-losing company. not really. not if you're growing at like, you know, 100% a year. >> we loved that quote. he said you're not a money losing company if you're growing. but you can be growing your losses, too. what do you think his point was? >> if you want to get inside his head somehow, i think he thinks of himself on a multi-decade path of building the future in whatever forms he sees possible and i think he sees it all as
investment. he didn't promise to have production at a level that would be profitable on a per vehicle basis or any other basis. so i mean, dollars and cents, real losses on an accounting basis and saying we're not deviating from the plan. that we have had in place for a while. >> i think it's kind of a cult stock. people can get around the fact that profit ability is fine. but there are some investors that don't operate that way particularly at a multiple like this. should be public at this point but that's for another discussion. >> reminds me of amazon in the early days. >> for sure. >> will the company make money? how long will we see it? investing to be able as well run and as good of a company, strong as they are today -- >> it is true but amazon after the ipo only went to the market to raise new equity once. not like tesla coming back. >> that's true. we got to take a quick break here. again, waiting on president
versus 18. revenue in line at $97 million. the ceo of el pollo loco saying we expect to open 17 to 20 company-operated restaurants and 10 to 15 franchise companies. 6% higher in after hours trading. >> thank you. mohawk, as well. housing theme continued to also be a strong one talking to home depot earlier this week. a ceo, this is the sort of, you know, what he want it is project an just been executing so well here. >> absolutely. the sector's so much benefitting from the low interest rate environment. one sector that totally gets it, the benefits of it, it's this one. so you have been seeing companies that can execute able to beat and raise. home depot and lowe's, a mistake to sell them and i have sold them and rebought them back and then mohawk is great today. louisiana pacific with a great number, as well.
osb prices extremely tight. i was telling mike they were saying that the prices are tighter kind of for longer because it's been a slow gradual recovery in housing and not a spike up and they believe it's can last for sometime. >> low rates filtering into the mortgage refinancing boom and a beneficiary. that's the cycle that runs there. you know? homeowners with more cash and goes into carpeting. >> that's why it's hard to imagine even if there's a hiccup in the food industry there's any problem with the consumer because unless all of these companies wilt at once and, you know, something else is happening there, this spend is there even if it's just there in slightly different ways. >> for sure. we said it so many different ways. consumer choosing what they want to buy and not everything is perfect. wages not that great. >> right. >> up until recently jobs haven't that great and depends and they're being very selective on what they're doing. >> zynga. we have the earnings. julia? >> well, kelly, not choosing
zyn zynga. beat by $5 million at $175 million and earnings were in line of estimates basically in the and the stock down over 9% at the monthly active user numbers dramatically disappointed exec tass. now the company 61 million monthly average users. expectations were that the company would have about 67 million. and the company -- this is down from 68 million in q1 an down from about 83 million in the prior -- in the year ago quarter and talking about a dramatic decline year over year in users and also a decline of q1 to 2 and why the stock is down. kelly? >> down 9%. all right. thank you. want to go back to john harwood in washington. the president we understand may be getting closer now to speaking. anything unusual about this delay? >> no. presidents frequently after meetings of this kind, don't know what post-meeting might have taken place. or briefing for the president might have taken place after the
meeting. but running a little bit behind schedule's part of the run and we have a two-minute warning and expect the president to walk out any minute and update the country on the fight against isis and, also, take some questions and certainly drawn in once again to the 2016 presidential campaign. >> oh, sure. i assume this is going to be addressing libya, as well, where i think air strikes there begun. us, maybe france and another place where the islamic state's kind of been pushed out of the parts of the middle east and has a foothold. >> that's right. addressing that and as we discussed earlier, the $400 million plane load of cash, not in american dollars, but in other currencies, that was delivered to iran at the same time prisoners were released earlier this year. republicans, donald trump and others, are saying that's a ransom payment improper. white house insisted that's not what it was. but the president will make his
own defense in a couple of minutes. >> yeah. exactly. by the way, oh, okay. a quick break and come right back. okay. we'll stay right here. sorry, everybody. we're waiting to see the president come out of this briefing. and, yeah. i mean, john, he is going to get drawn into the 2016 election. probably not the first question but the next one. >> that's right. and he's feeling pretty good about that election at this point because after he put his shoulder to the wheel and michelle obama did, too, at the democratic convention, hillary clinton built a significant lead over donald trump since those conventions. and the president, of course, very badly wants a democratic successor own that's if she wins hillary clinton. >> you know, john, you mentioned earlier, he's probably also likely to get a question about these reports of the shipping of cash to iran. the white house, of course, had a response to that but does it seem like a thing to dog the
administration and by extension the clinton campaign? >> to a degree. to the extent that republicans and congress and donald trump continue raising it. it's an issue that will be on the agenda. the administration's trying to make the case that this is just residual opposition to the iran nuclear deal by people who failed to stop it. and, you know, we'll hear some of that from the president, as well. but the question of is this a ransom payment or not, given the appearances a plane load of cash, it's certainly puts the administration on the defensive and i think we will see that reflected at this news conference. >> we know any victory against the islamic state is a double-edged sword and trying to, you know, pride, sympathizers and other parts of the west to stage these lone wolf attacks. >> right. and, you know, when you have the entire western world with soft targets all over the place, if
you can find a small number of people willing to give up their lives, you can pull off those and that's what the islamic state decided that's their strategy, as their territorial hold shrinks, that's a problem for france, for the united states, for belgium and -- >> and here -- >> and many other places. >> here's the president taking the podium. >> i met again the national security council on destroying isis. i want to thank the generals who returned from the middle east for hosting us and for their continued leadership of our men and women in uniform. i last updated the american people on our campaign in june, shortly after the horrifying attack in orlando. in the weeks since, we have continued to be relentless in or fight against isil and on the ground in syria and iraq isil continues to lose territory.
tragically, however, we have also seen that isil has the ability to direct and inspire attacks. so we have seen terrible bombings in iraq and in jordan and lebanon, saudi arabia, yemen and afghanistan. attacks an istanbul airport, a restaurant in bangladesh, bateal day celebrations and a church in france and a music festival in germany. in fact, the decline of isil in syria and iraq appears to be causing it to shift to tactics that we've seen before and even greater emphasis on encouraging high-profile terrorist attacks, including in the united states. as always, our military, diplomatic, intelligence, homeland security and law enforcement professionals are working around the clock with other countries and with communities here at home to share information and prevent such attacks. over the years they have prevented many, but as we've seen it is still very difficult to detect and prevent lone
actors or small cells of terrorists who are determined to kill the innocent and are willing to die, and that's why as we discussed today we're going to keep going after isil aggressively across every front of this campaign. our air campaign continues to hammer isil targets. more than 14,000 strikes so far. more than 100,000 sorties, including those hitting the isil core in raqqah and in mosul and in stark contrast to isil which uses human shields we'll do everything in our power to avoid civilian casualties. with our extraordinary technology, we're conducting the most precise air campaign in history. after all, it is the innocent civilians of syria and iraq who are suffering the most and who need to be saved from isil's terror and so when there are allegations of civilian casualties, we take them very seriously. we work to find the facts, to be
transparent and to hold ourselves accountable for doing better in the future. we continue to take out senior isil leaders and commanders. this includes isil's deputy minister of war, a top commander in mosul al hadani and yet another significant loss for isil, its minister of war umar al shoshani. none of isil's leaders are safe, and we're going to keep going after them. on the ground in iraq local forces keep pushing isil back. in a major success, iraqi forces, with coalition support, finally liberated fallujah. now they are clearing isil fighters from more areas up the euphrates valley and iraqi forces retook the strategic air base just 40 miles from mosul. now the last major isil stronghold in iraq. given the success, the
additional 560 u.s. support personnel that i ordered to iraq last month will help turn this base into a logistical hub and launchpad for iraqi forces as they push into mosul. meanwhile in syria, a coalition of local forces backed by our special operations forces and air strikes continues to take the fight to isil as well. the coalition is fighting its way into the town of mondaj, a gateway for isil fighters coming in and terrorists heading out to attack europe which is why isil is fighting hard to hold it. as isil is beaten back, we're gaining vast amounts of intelligence. thousands of documents, thumb drives, digital files, which we will use to keep destroying isil's networks and stop foreign fighters. we also continue to intensify our efforts against al qaeda in syria which no matter what name it calls itself cannot be allowed to maintain a safe haven to train and plot attacks against us. i do want to step back and note
the broader progress that has been made in this campaign so far. two years ago isil was racing across a rock to the outskirts of baghdad itself and in many ways isil looked invincible. since then isil has lost at the dam, at tikrit, baiji, sinjar, ramadi, at rubah hand now fallujah. in syria isil has lost at kubani and the dam and al shabadi and they have lost in vast stretches across the turkey border and all transit routes into raqqah. isil has not been able to reclaim any significant territory that they have lost. so i want to repeat. isil has not had a major successful offensive operation in either syria or iraq in a full year. even isil's leaders know they
are going to keep losing, and their message to followers, they are increasingly acknowledging that they may lose mosul and raqqah and isil is right. they will lose them, and we'll keep hitting them and pushing them back and driving them out until they do. in other words, isil turns out not to be invincible. they are in fact inevitably going to be defeated, but we do recognize at the same time that the situation is complex, and this cannot be solved by military force alone. that's why last month the united states and countries around the world pledged more than $2 billion in new funds to help iraqis stabilize and rebuild their communities. that's why we're working with iraq so that the military campaign to liberate mosul is matched with humanitarian and political efforts to protect civilians and promote inclis i ever governance so isil cannot return by exploiting new divisions or grievances. in syria, as i've repeatedly
said, defeating isil and al qaeda requires an end to the civil war, and the assad regime's brutality against the syrian people which pushes people into the arms of extremists. the regime and its allies continue to violate the cessation of hostilities, including with vicious attacks on defenseless civilians, medieval sieges against cities like aleppo and blocking fooled from reaching families that are starving. it is deplorable, and the depravity of the syrian regime has rightly earned the condemnation. world. russia use direct involvement in these actions over the last several weeks raises serious questions about their ability to pull the situation back from the brink. the u.s. remains prepared to work with russia to try to reduce the violence and strengthen our efforts against isil and al qaeda in syria, but so far russia has failed to take the necessary steps. given the deteriorating situation it is time for russia to show that it is serious about
pursuing these objectives. beyond syria and iraq we'll keep working with allies and partners to go after isil wherever it tries to spread. at the request of libya's government of national court we are conducting strikes in support of government-agned forces as they fight to retake sirt from isil and we'll continue to secure their country. in afghanistan, one of the reasons that i decided to largely maintain our current force posture was so that we could keep eliminating isil's presence there, and we delivered another blow last month when we took out a top isil leader in afghanistan, umar chalifa. finally it should be clear by now and no one knows this better than our military leaders that even as we need to crush isil on the battlefield their military defeat will not be enough. so long as their twisted ideology persists and drives people to violence then groups like isil will keep emerging and
the international community will continue to be at risk in getting sucked into the kind of global whack a whole where we're always reacting to the latest threat and lone actor and that's why we're working to counter violent extremism more broadly including the social, economic and political factors that help fuel groups like isil and al qaeda in the first place. nothing will do more to discredit isil and its phony claims to being a calfat than when it loses its base in raqqah and in mosul, and we're going to keep working with partners including muslim countries and communities, especially online, to expose isil for what they are, murderers who kill innocent people, including muslim families and children as they break their ramadan fast and who set off bombs in medina near the prophet's mosque, one of the holiest sites. moreover, we refuse to let voices of division undermine the
values of what keeps our america strong. one of the reasons we're the best in the world is we draw from all the skills of all people, including patriotic muslim americans who risk and give their lives for our freedom, and i think the entire world was inspired this past sunday when muslims across france joined the catholic neighbors at mass and in a moving display of solidarity prayed together. the greeting they extend to each other has to be the message we echo in all of our countries and all of our countries. peace be with you and also with you. now, before i take some questions i also want to say a few words on another topic. as our public health experts have been warning for some time, we are now seeing the first locally transmitted cases of the zika virus by mosquitos in the continental united states. this was predicted and predictable. so far we've seen 15 cases in the miami area. we're taking this extremely
seriously. our cdc experts are on the ground working shoulder to shoulder with florida health authorities. there is a very aggressive effort under way to control mosquitos there and pregnant women have been urged to stay away from the particular neighborhood that we're focused on. we'll keep working as one team, federal, state and local, to try to slow and limit the spread of the virus. i do want to be very clear though. our public health experts do not expect to see the kind of widespread outbreaks of zika here that we've seen in brazil or in puerto rico. the kind of mosquitos that are most likely to carry zika are limited to certain regions of our country but we cannot be complacent because we do expect to see more zika cases, and even though the symptoms for most people are mild, many may never even know that they have it. we've seen that the complications for pregnant women and their babies can be severe. so i, again, want to encourage every american to l